Thinking Activity "The wastland "by T.S.Eliot.
1) What are your views on the following image after reading 'The Waste Land'? Do you think that Eliot is regressive as compared to Nietzsche's views? or Has Eliot achieved universality of thought by recalling mytho-historical answer to the contemporary malaise?
T.S. Eliot and F. Nietzche
T.S.Eliot's The Waste Land has been regarded as one of the most important modern poem. The work addresses modernity and the lost connection to high culture and fine art. The poem is full of literary and mythological references that draw on many culture and universalized the poem's theme.
Eliot believes in supernatural power and he wanted to evoke that supernatural instinct in the heart of people for better future, he has taken the old mythical as well as logical ideas from past with the help of Upanishads as well as various cultures.
On the other hand Nietzsche is like an atheist, he believes in human power as a “superman” that only man can help themselves and “God is dead”. He was convinced that traditional values represented a “slave morality”.
Both interpretations are true, but we cannot say that Eliot is regressive as compared to Nietzsche's views because what Eliot is using past reference to answer the contemporary malaise. Those myths and thinking has earlier changed the way of thinking of people, for example Buddhism was a prominent religion which has developed humanity in people. As far as Nietzsche’s views are concerned, he is believing in “superhuman”, yes that is true that the concept is good but not everyone can became a man with super powers of strong will orThe Übermensch which means ‘beyond man’.
The view of Eliot can be considered as more realistic than Nietzsche. Nietzsche is finding the solution of present in future, and Eliot is finding the solution of present and future in past. Nietzsche believes in assumptions while Eliot has proved it universally correct, by examine all the cultures.
2) Freud and Eliot both are different from their view point.
- Freud believed in individuality and talk about "primitive instinct".
- Where as Eliot believe that The Salvation of man lies in the preservation of cultural traditions which in our more mature years lives with greater vigour within us than does primitive if chaos is to be avoided.
3) Write about allusions to the Indian thoughts in 'The Waste Land'. (Where, How and Why are the Indian thoughts referred?)
In “The Waste Land” Eliot has presented various cultures and languages to connect the world with one universal thought. In first four parts Eliot has described that how sexual perversion has overpowered the spirituality of humans and in the last part “What the thunder said” he described the solution of spiritual degradation by referring in Indian culture and Upanishads. The allusions to the Indian thoughts are:
Eliot refers to Wisdom of India for spiritual salvation of modern humanity by giving the reference of
“Ganga was sunken, and the limp leaves
Waited for rain, while the black clouds
Gathered far distant, over Himavant.
The jungle crouched, humped in silence.
Then spoke the thunder”
Then there is a reference of three ‘Da’
Datta : to give: not only charity but giving oneself for some noble cause – passionate participation, not mere mechanical – devote oneself for noble deeds and for that he has given an example of Daan-vir Karna, Bhamasha.
2) Dayadhvam: sympathise – empathize yourself with the
sorrows and suffering of others, come out of your isolation
and live into others.
3) Damyata: Self Control, control over one’s passions and
.dedesires.
Thiis all are the deep rooted philosophy of Indian culture
which Eliot wants to be followed by Waste lander.
The last lines,
“Shantih shantih shantih “
suggests ‘the peace which passeth understanding’. The word ‘Shanti” is used for peaceful life in most of the chants of Indian Vedas and Upanishads and Eliot has also used it to end his poem and to give the message of peace.e Land Thinking Activity
1) What are your views on the following image after reading 'The Waste Land'? Do you think that Eliot is regressive as compared to Nietzsche's views? or Has Eliot achieved universality of thought by recalling mytho-historical answer to the contemporary malaise?
T.S. Eliot and F. Nietzche
T.S.Eliot's The Waste Land has been regarded as one of the most important modern poem. The work addresses modernity and the lost connection to high culture and fine art. The poem is full of literary and mythological references that draw on many culture and universalized the poem's theme.
Eliot believes in supernatural power and he wanted to evoke that supernatural instinct in the heart of people for better future, he has taken the old mythical as well as logical ideas from past with the help of Upanishads as well as various cultures.
On the other hand Nietzsche is like an atheist, he believes in human power as a “superman” that only man can help themselves and “God is dead”. He was convinced that traditional values represented a “slave morality”.
Both interpretations are true, but we cannot say that Eliot is regressive as compared to Nietzsche's views because what Eliot is using past reference to answer the contemporary malaise. Those myths and thinking has earlier changed the way of thinking of people, for example Buddhism was a prominent religion which has developed humanity in people. As far as Nietzsche’s views are concerned, he is believing in “superhuman”, yes that is true that the concept is good but not everyone can became a man with super powers of strong will orThe Übermensch which means ‘beyond man’.
The view of Eliot can be considered as more realistic than Nietzsche. Nietzsche is finding the solution of present in future, and Eliot is finding the solution of present and future in past. Nietzsche believes in assumptions while Eliot has proved it universally correct, by examine all the cultures.
2) Freud and Eliot both are different from their view point.
- Freud believed in individuality and talk about "primitive instinct".
- Where as Eliot believe that The Salvation of man lies in the preservation of cultural traditions which in our more mature years lives with greater vigour within us than does primitive if chaos is to be avoided.
3) Write about allusions to the Indian thoughts in 'The Waste Land'. (Where, How and Why are the Indian thoughts referred?)
In “The Waste Land” Eliot has presented various cultures and languages to connect the world with one universal thought. In first four parts Eliot has described that how sexual perversion has overpowered the spirituality of humans and in the last part “What the thunder said” he described the solution of spiritual degradation by referring in Indian culture and Upanishads. The allusions to the Indian thoughts are:
Eliot refers to Wisdom of India for spiritual salvation of modern humanity by giving the reference of
“Ganga was sunken, and the limp leaves
Waited for rain, while the black clouds
Gathered far distant, over Himavant.
The jungle crouched, humped in silence.
Then spoke the thunder”
Then there is a reference of three ‘Da’
Datta : to give: not only charity but giving oneself for some noble cause – passionate participation, not mere mechanical – devote oneself for noble deeds and for that he has given an example of Daan-vir Karna, Bhamasha.
2) Dayadhvam: sympathise – empathize yourself with the
sorrows and suffering of others, come out of your isolation
and live into others.
3) Damyata: Self Control, control over one’s passions and
.dedesires.
Thiis all are the deep rooted philosophy of Indian culture
which Eliot wants to be followed by Waste lander.
The last lines,
“Shantih shantih shantih “
suggests ‘the peace which passeth understanding’. The word ‘Shanti” is used for peaceful life in most of the chants of Indian Vedas and Upanishads and Eliot has also used it to end his poem and to give the message of peace.e Land Thinking Activity
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